I bet the HSUS could hook up with PETA and use the animals euthanized in the PETA shelter for protein in the HSUS brand dog food - if they ever re-introduce it.

Good, now how about they respect humans eating meat. That is what we are designed to do!!!!

It seems to me that HSUS has been put down quite a bit lately unless it is my imagination.

I use to support them with a monthly donation and was intending to start up again with a donation come February 1st but I am having some reservations.

I have read some negatives lately about the organization and where the donations go and was kind of concerned that perhaps I should think again where my monthly donation should go.

Suzanne, welcome to the ‘enlightenment’. Not to brag, but 20 years ago - probably about the time that several charities were the subject of some big investigations in the media - I looked into the activities of HSUS. I pulled my donation, my support, and have never looked back. It was a long time before anyone really listened to me, but at least I was supporting REAL humane societies from then on, local groups who welcomed my support.

Enter HumaneWatch, and finally the truth is coming to light! Thank you, HumaneWatch.

HSUS claims to be a ‘grassroots’ organization . . . hah! Couldn’t be further from the truth. Their so-called programs are nothing more than money grabs. They control enough money already to support real programs that actually benefit animals, but if you look closely at what they do in our state Legislatures, you will realize they are actually attempting to take control of our entire society, using Americans’ love of animals to open our wallets - and use our own money to limit our freedom to enjoy our choice of family pets, our diets, our recreation and even our health. Yes, our health. Keep on sharing your enlightenment, Suzanne! The more people realize that HSUS is a scam, the more benefit to animals - and people.

Of all the stupid ideas Pacelle has come up with, that’s definitely one of ‘em.

Suzanne, send your donations to your local shelter.  This way you know your money will be spent on animals rather than salaries and pensions of a gazzilion CEOs, lawyers, lobbyists, and, of course, the ballot proposals.

Though it may seem that dogs and especially cats may need to eat meat, I just wanted to offer Frank an additional information on how humans are not designed to eat meat, “Regarding the eating of animal flesh and abstinence therefrom, know thou of a certainty that, in the beginning of creation, God determined the food of every living being, and to eat contrary to that determination is not approved. For instance, beasts of prey, such as the wolf, lion and leopard, are endowed with ferocious, tearing instruments, such as hooked talons and claws. From this it is evidence that the food of such beasts is meat … But now coming to man, we see he hath neither hooked teeth nor sharp nails or claws, nor teeth like iron sickles. From this it becometh evident and manifest that the food of man is cereal and fruit. Some of the teeth of man are like millstones to grind the grain, and some are sharp to cut the fruit. Therefore he is not in need of meat, nor is he obliged to eat it. Even without eating meat he would live with the utmost vigour and energy … Truly, the killing of animals and the eating of their meat is somewhat contrary to pity and compassion, and of one can content oneself with cereals, fruit, oil and nuts, such as pistachios, almonds and so on, it would undoubtedly be better and more pleasing.”
From a Tablet of ‘Abdu’l-Bahá to an individual believer, Selections from the Bahá’í Writings on Some Aspects of Health and Healing, a compilation of the Universal House of Justice, Bahá’í Publishing Trust, New Delhi, 1974, pp. 7-8.

Obviously HSUS is an entity that cares nothing about animals—-so why do they trouble themselves creating ‘dog food’?  The other obvious answer: A money-making scheme for profits.

Veronica, religion aside (please), all of our closest living relatives eat meat (chimps, bonobos, gorillas, and orangutans).  They may eat more or less of it, but they all eat it.
Judging by fossil evidence and artifacts in old camp sites of pre-humans, our immediate ancestors ate plenty of meat, and so did THEIR immediate ancestors.  Our closest cousins, the neanderthals, were actually true carnivores, and ate even more meat than we do.  We are primates.  Have you ever seen the fangs on a chimp?  They don’t use them for hunting, they use them for display.  They use their hands and tools for hunting.  We don’t need claws and fangs, because we use tools, and we evolved from a long line of tool using animals.  Humans are omnivores, and everything about our digestive system points to that—including the fact that we need vitamin B-12 in our diet, and that comes from meat.

Plus, we are obviously predators, and we enjoy hunting.  I challenge you to find even one primitive vegetarian culture, much less a vegan one.  They don’t exist, because vegetarianism is an unnatural conceit, brought about by religious beliefs or the modern disconnect between where our food comes from, and how we acquire it.

Veronica, with due respect to your religious beliefs, there is more to the story. Instead of fangs and claws, human beings have big brains to facilitate our hunting capabilities, and we do, actually, have canine teeth and a digestive system designed to gain maximum nutrition from animal protein. It is not as simple as many ancient writings say, humans’ big brains continue to learn more. Humans are the only species on the planet that can decide to change it’s own natural diet for reasons beyond the natural world. Dogs do not, and should not, have the ability to make these decisions for themselves. My dogs would never choose chemically altered plant protein over real meat, ever.

No one is forcing you, or anyone else, to eat meat, but HSUS is clearly aiming at forcing the rest of society to eliminate meat and all other animal products, which is irresponsible in the extreme - from a health, spiritual, economic and environmental standpoint. And don’t leave out mental health and child emotional development, which benefits deeply from our relationships with animals. Not a small matter.

Encouraging people to believe that animals’ natural diets can be changed based on human emotion is dishonest, and when people force animals to eat the wrong diet, it is animal abuse and cruelty, no matter how well intentioned. Cats denied animal protein will die, and dogs, although they can survive without meat, will not be as healthy as is possible. Just the emotional negativity of feeding our dogs foods they don’t like is frowned upon by HSUS and other animal rights groups - they want to have it both ways. But the end result will be simply fewer healthy, happy pets, which furthers their anti-animal policies, and we cheerfully accept this? Come on.

Don’t forget, in the U.S., horse meat is a main source of animal protein for pets, some circus and zoo animals.

Horse meat?  Really?  A main source?  Where on earth did you get that information?  I know horses can be shoved through the grinder along with any other downer livestock or whatnot, to make ‘meat meal’, but calling them a main source seems silly.  There just aren’t that many horses.  Since they banned slaughtering them, there would be even fewer available for that.  Besides, horse meat is very healthy, if it weren’t for all the chemicals used on ‘pet’ horses, at least.

Horsemeat as frozen or canned dog food was a staple in the 40’s and 50’s; but is not readily available to the public pet trade any more; horses are no longer considered ‘livestock’ they are ‘pets’ and we don’t eat pets. I feed a species appropriate diet to my dogs, and I would love to have horsemeat available again.
it is also a very good table meat for humans; fine textured, mild and frankly, impo, better than most beef.

Thank You chienblanc4csi,  Kathryn Smith, and Donna.  This is supposed to be a FREE country.  As in free to own domestic animals as pets and to responsibly breed them or show them or eat them if we choose!
If more people grew up on farms maybe they would have a better appreciation of our food, oh wait, HSUS is trying to DESTROY farms!  These people need to be stopped, enough is enough.  Animals do not have rights, only people do.  I support animal WELFARE I do not and will never support animal RIGHTS.

Also, thanks to horse slaughter being banned in the US we now have horses starving to death in people’s back yards, being turned loose, abandoned in the woods, neglected etc.. because they are very EXPENSIVE to care for properly and when people no longer can afford them there is no place for them to go unless it’s on a truck bound hundreds or thousands of miles to MEXICO.  That is so much better for them than having a short trip to a domestic slaughter house….NOT

I understand there are petitions and other actions in motion to try to overturn the ban on horse slaughter, so perhaps we’ll have that available again in the future.

To me—it has hooves, and eats grass, so it’s livestock, lol.

Yes, horse meat is/was an available cheap source of animal protein for pets and some zoo animals—which is good reason to open up Horse slaughter.

Up until a few years ago, when I was at livestock and horse sales, there was always a “killer buyer”
that would pay a minimum price for animals that people didn’t want to take home.  Now, to buy the meat from foreign countries probably makes it to expensive.

India won’t eat beef, the U.S (mostly) won’t eat horse meat; both are livestock, and for both countries it’s a cultural difference. For as much as people point fingers at Europe, China and Mexico actually consume more horse meat per capita than anyone else.

There are certain benefits to consuming horse meat, such as lower fat and cholesterol, higher iron and zinc, etc. compared to beef, and many Europeans seek out horse meat because of the health advantages. Horse meat is the preferential protein source in big cat diets due to its nutrient content. When the US slaughter plants closed (thanks to some Congressional appropriation restrictions and individual state laws) a number of zoos reported big cats developing heart disease and other related disorders when the horse meat was replaced with beef. Zoos and groups are now importing horse meat in order to keep the cats on a more favorable diet.